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'Friend zone' leaves nice guys dateless

By Jay Langley

Senior Staff Writer

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Published: Tuesday, January 24, 2006

Updated: Sunday, August 30, 2009

I can feel it sucking me in. I can't seem to avoid its strong gravitational pull. Once I am in, I can't do anything to get out.

I am stuck in the "friend zone."

My theory is most of the friends you currently have are your friends for one simple reason. You tried to get with them or visa versa and fell into the "friend zone."

The "friend zone" is a lonely place. You sit at a bar across the table from your best friend, and she is cuddling with her boyfriend. Only an hour ago she cried on your shoulder about what a jerk he was being. You know in the back of your mind in a couple of days you will get another one of those teary phone calls asking you if you want to talk. So you run over to her apartment and let her cry on your shoulder once again. Because that is what a best friend is supposed to do.

So how does someone end up in the "friend zone?" Unfortunately the answer is by being a nice guy. If you don't get her drunk and try to take advantage of her, you will end up in the "friend zone." If you don't ignore her when your friends are around or call her a bitch when she questions you, you will end up in the "friend zone."

The problem is girls say they want one thing and then go after a completely different thing.

Let us examine a typical Hollywood romantic comedy. Enter Richard Gere as Julia Roberts' lifelong friend. Richard is secretly in love with Julia. Enter Hugh Grant as Julia's cocky boyfriend. For the entire two hour movie, the audience is rooting for Richard. He never would steer Julia wrong. Inevitably by the end of the film, Julia sees the light and runs into Richard's arms. The women seem to love these movies. They eat them up. But they do not live by the philosophy of the movie. In real life, Julia ends up with Hugh, and Richard and I are left wondering where we went wrong.

Women do not know what they want. This extends past what kind of guy they want to spend the rest of their lives with. Let me talk to the guys who have been in a relationship of six months or longer. You think you know what she wants. She thinks she knows what she wants. But one day at about 5 p.m., the two of you are driving down the road. You are hungry and ask her where she wants to have dinner. Her response: "Whatever." In this case "whatever" does not mean "whatever." It actually means, "you better remember what kind of food I like" and "you better remember the last five restaurants we went to because I am not going there again." So after you have suggested the seventh or eighth restaurant for the two of you to go to, and she has given you another excuse like "no my cousin's ex-roommate works there, and I don't like the shoes I am wearing," just remember she said "whatever."

(Author's note: This last paragraph actually has nothing to do with the "friend zone." It simply illustrates how women have no idea what they want.)

Can someone get out of the "friend zone" once they are in it? The sad answer is no. I was having a conversation with a co-worker of mine the other day. We were talking about a mutual friend, and I suggested she should try dating him. I then heard the words I have heard a million times but still do not understand: "No, we are too good of friends."

So let me get this straight: You don't want to date someone who you can completely trust? You say you want someone who will make you happy and can be there for you through thick and thin. But your boyfriend knows nothing about you. He doesn't know your favorite color let alone your life ambitions or how to make you happy. Don't you want to be with someone who knows everything about you and is willing to stick by you anyway? He will be there even when you feel ugly or fat. Because he thinks you're beautiful no matter what.

My female friends reading this column should not read this and think I am talking about you. This is not my way of telling you that I am secretly in love with you. Anyone who knows me knows that I completely wear my emotions on my sleeve.

So girls, the next time you want a guy to make you happy, don't look very far. He is right there next to you. He will treat you like a queen. He knows everything about you so you know you can trust him. In some capacity, you know he loves you. And in some capacity, you know you love him, too. That's why the next time you have a problem, he is the first person you call. Because you know he will be at your doorstep with a shoulder to cry on.

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14 comments

ka
Sat Dec 12 2009 13:43
sounds like in this particular case "friend" and "girl" are both attracted to people who walk all over them..
George Gant
Sat Dec 12 2009 11:59
With all specieis of animals, it is the FEMALE who decides: How, Where, When, With Whom and for How Much - even if its only the presentation of the most blue trinkets for an Australian bird, for example. If the MALE decides, it either turns into a "friendship" or at worst a possible rape charge - guilty or not.

When it comes to dealing with FEMALES, take a note from your feathered friends - do the dance, show the colors, puff up the chest, do the song, etc. If she finds that attractive (by her innate standards) she will come over and you two can enjoy your moment of bliss and warming the eggs and finally feeding the chicks.

If, not, go back to living your own life and try again in the spring and summer. Most babies are born in the spring. There is a survival reason for this. Calculate backwards for the gestation period and you will find the time of the year when she's most receptive. If you're the only option she can get, your chances are excellent!

If you want to avoid the "friendship label" have her come to you, not the other way around. LIke your feathered friend, if she's interested, she will come to you. Females are curious and like to discover things, especially "bargins" on useless items and future mates. Make it too easy for them, and they will become easily bored, like your favorite little furball.

Stephanie
Sat Dec 12 2009 01:00
So have you considered that it is not that these women think you are "too good a friend" to screw up your "relationship", but rather that they are searching for an "acceptable" excuse to not have to go out with you?

Whatever their reason, like maybe you have differing views on things that are important to her like religion or morals, or maybe she is just not physically attracted to you because you sort of remind her of her brother when he was your age, or maybe she just thinks you have absolutely no personality, maybe she would rather not deflate your ego along these lines, but rather use the friend card.

And yes, it's not a rule, it's a card. If a girl is attracted to you in the first place and you start being friendly to her, you will find she gives you quite a different response to those she puts in the "friend zone".

Also, ask yourself some questions: are you being entirely objective in your reason for liking this girl who seems to have labeled you "just a friend"?

Did you KNOW beforehand that she was just too different from you to take interest, or maybe the reason you like her is because you think she's hot, no other reason, and are passing up other girls you COULD actually get along with because you don't think they're hot enough?

I'm guessing you wrote this article because you have been reading way too much askmen.com , or have just failed miserably to obtain the unobtainable girl that OMG is so HOT you wanna uh and uh uh... whatever.

Be REALISTIC. If a girl says you are "only a friend", take a hint. She doesn't like you. It's not your fault. She has phrased it this way to attempt not to hurt your feelings. If you still want her (for reasons beyond the physical), then believe it or not, you CAN change her mind. You have to find out why she is turned off by you, and contradict her view of you. STEP UP your GAME. If it's too much work, you obviously don't like her THAT much.

RB
Fri Dec 11 2009 21:14
This is absolutly uncalled for. For one, you are generalizing that all females act this way. My boyfriend is my best friend. Not all girls do this. I understand that some do, but it is ridiculous to place all females into a stereotype. Also, most females do NOT enjoy it when they are called a bitch. It's demeaning and rude. This entire article is putting down the females of this world.
jaclyn
Fri Dec 11 2009 20:09
I stopped reading after:
If you don't get her drunk and try to take advantage of her, you will end up in the "friend zone." If you don't ignore her when your friends are around or call her a bitch when she questions you, you will end up in the "friend zone."
That is a disgusting statement. Maybe the problem isn't that you're a nice guy; maybe the problem is that women see you as the judgemental psycho you are.
George Gant
Thu Dec 10 2009 23:12
If you want a Best Friend, get a Dog. If you want a great romantic relationship, have great sex. It is that simple. All the other stuff is just so much ink that fills the pulp in the Romance Novels and the limited creative imagination of Vapid Valley Girls.
ka
Thu Dec 10 2009 16:08
being a best friend is a a bonus, but it is not the ultimate requirement or only desired quality in a romantic partner, even if you happen to be of the opposite sex. shocker, i know.
George Gant
Thu Dec 10 2009 11:41
FROM: AR Wed Dec 9 2009 16:54 "The sad thing about young women is everything that was writen here is true.... However IF the nice guys can wait until the girls grow up and have had enough of being taken advantage of and mistreated.... men will find someone who truly appreciates the good qualities in themselves that have been taken advantage of and overlooked for so long.... Sometimes the wait is soooooo long... but the rewards are well worth the effort..... Hang in there ... Your day is coming.. "

Response: Yes, your day is coming. I've actually been there when I was a Freshman.

When she comes back to you a year or two later, DIVORCED and with babies in tow, telling you how much she has missed you, thank her. Then remind her that you had to move on with your life, otherwise she will use you again until she finds a replacement for her ex. Trust me on this one!

Besides, if you were in love with a beautiful new car you couldn't afford, would you wait for a Long Time until the owner used up all that New car Smell, put wear, tear, dents and a couple of hundred thousand miles into it? Would it still be the same car? How could you possibly benefit by waiting for it to be available, when you could have had another one?

AR
Wed Dec 9 2009 16:54
The sad thing about young women is everything that was writen here is true.... However IF the nice guys can wait until the girls grow up and have had enough of being taken advantage of and mistreated.... men will find someone who truly appreciates the good qualities in themselves that have been taken advantage of and overlooked for so long.... Sometimes the wait is soooooo long... but the rewards are well worth the effort..... Hang in there ... Your day is coming..
CK
Sat Nov 28 2009 19:42
I have a friend who tells me how much he care about me all the time. He listens to my guys problems, he always answers my calls(even if he is with other females), he tell me about his life and i tell him about mine. The other day he brought up the fact that he is in the friend zone and that he hates being my friend when he cares so much about me, but he knows that i have a thing for my ex. He constantly says: " Why do you keep fooling around with losers, you comlain about them all the time yet you keep going back to them", " I'm just waiting for you to realize that the perfect man is right here". A part of me wants to be with him, but the other part says that he his nothing that i look for in a guy as far as appearance goes and he won't be able to satisfy me financially....help! what do i do??
ck
Sat Nov 28 2009 19:41
I have a friend who tells me how much he care about me all the time. He listens to my guys problems, he always answers my calls(even if he is with other females), he tell me about his life and i tell him about mine. The other day he brought up the fact that he is in the friend zone and that he hates being my friend when he cares so much about me, but he knows that i have a thing for my ex. He constantly says: " Why do you keep fooling around with losers, you comlain about them all the time yet you keep going back to them", " I'm just waiting for you to realize that the perfect man is right here". A part of me wants to be with him, but the other part says that he his nothing that i look for in a guy as far as appearance goes and he won't be able to satisfy me financially....help! what do i do??
George Gant
Sun Nov 22 2009 13:09
""I wish my Boyfriend was like You".

Translation: "I want to be loved and appreciated and have the opportunity to vent, but I just CAN'T resist a man who keeps me down and makes me feel inferior. It's such a sexual turn on when the man is in control of my emotions and my life."

George Gant
Sat Nov 14 2009 10:55
Nice guys are reminders of nice grandfathers. Not too many young girls want to have sex with their grandfathers.

Bad, angry, confused young men attract women. Remember the trusim about all women: a women looks for the perfect man, so that she can change him. And, its not limited to men. Go house hunting with a woman sometime. It doesn't matter how architecturally flawless the house happens to be, she will select the house where she can make permanent changes.

Want to get out of the "friend zone"? STOP being a "friend." A friend is like a familiar, well worn in pair of warm, fuzzy slippers. They provide comfort and security, but NO sexual stimulation.

Want to continue in the role of a "doormat" or a substitute pair of 'warm fuzzy slippers" or do you want to be the guy on the cover of a romance novel....lean, muscular, tanned and sweaty, taking his shirt off as she begins to drip and finally pour? It's your choice.

jq
Thu Nov 12 2009 18:31
This is sooo true. I'm glad someone wrote about this. And the Comment Nice Guys hate the most is... " I wish my Boyfriend was like You".






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